Did you vote Obama?

Those who did Is this your position? http://blog.heritage.org/2012/07/16/morning-bell-obama-tells-entrepreneurs-you-didnt-build-your-business/Will you vote Obama again?????????? B) :) :) B) Deep Down In Florida Where The Sun Shines Damn Near Every Day

In Case You Don't Like Mitt Romney... Columnist Andrew McCarthy gives us what probably is the most important question regarding the upcoming presidential election…

“If Mitt wins the nomination, as seems very likely, I will enthusiastically support his candidacy. For my friends who may have hesitation on that score, I’d just ask you to keep four things in mind:

1. Justice Scalia just turned 78 2. Justice Kennedy will turn 78 later this year 3. Justice Breyer will be 76 in August 4. Justice Ginsburg turned 81 about a week ago.

Whoever we elect as president in November is almost certainly going to choose at least one and maybe more new members of the Supreme Court — in addition to hundreds of other life-tenured federal judges, all of whom will be making momentous decisions about our lives for decades to come.

If you don’t think it matters whether the guy making those calls is Mitt Romney or Barack Obama, I think you’re smokin’ something 'funky.'" So for anybody who is thinking of not voting because your favorite didn’t get nominated, or writing in a candidate who can't win..., just imagine this possibility: 'SUPREME COURT JUSTICE ERIC HOLDER' Did that get your attention? I sure hope so...

Thomas Jefferson

"...rather be exposed to the inconvenience attending too much Liberty than..."

"but rightful liberty is within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others..."

That can get sticky.

I can't dumb it down. You and I probably agree on a lot, on the deep level at least, and probably disagree on some surface issues. I'm really not sure. One can always make the point that surface issues are directly rooted in deep issues and therefore disagreement equals disagreement equals disagreement, period. I don't actually buy that. I put weight-loads on disagreements so one is not equal to another. Where we can agree, I think, which is why I felt it worthwhile to enter in, is that the "attending" part is worthwhile. More than worthwhile, actually. That's the whole game.

We're aiming at different targets probably. Since I don't believe Obama is a Marxist, I merely dislike him and find him ineffectual. I consider him little more than a cork, bobbing on the surface of a wave, not the force driving any wave. This game is way too big and out of control for him to be more than a focal point for the hope or derision of the masses. Romney? These two characters are like Kryptonite and my voting hand is made of lead but don't worry, I'll vote somehow, even though the core problems will lurk out of the reach of this ballot. We have basically abandoned space exploration. Think about that. I know people on the dole screaming "too much taxes." As Twill points out, there are people "not on the dole" robbing us blind. Maybe you can discern a difference, but mud is mud to me.

I had to drive seventy miles to an interstate highway in Kentucky and then settle for a chain restaurant to get some bacon and eggs since I wasn't willing to settle for a McMuffin. I'm not kidding you. We used to be real.

I assume if it gets out of hand someone will fire up the kettle again for this type of discussion.

"...Brave men fought & died in WWII, Korea, Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan..."

This is true, but my Grandfather fought under Pershing before that, my great, great Grandfathers fought in the Civil War. Even before them were the ancestors that came through the Cumberland Gap after fighting in the war for independence. One of those died along with Israel Boone in the Battle of Blue Licks because nothing ever gets settled, not once-and-for-all settled. And it never will and it never should.

Fight on, because "... it frustrates the hell out of me to think of how much crap I put up with every day so that some lazyass welfare pukes can sit on the couch drinking a 40 and watching rap videos all day...." too.

Just please don't forget we've always taken serious hits from both ends. Revisit Shay's Rebellion. Remember Tammany Hall. Remember why we needed some anti-trust protection. Ponder carefully on what is meant by a "multi-national corporation."

There will never be an end to card-carrying placard-bearers, except maybe in Nazi Germany, China, or any other place where too-few people have gained too-much upper hand.

We need quality people. Of any kind. Of any stripe and persuasion. Unbridled capitalism is no better than unbridled government. It's not just about who gets what and why, it's about who is doing what, to what, for whom, to whom, and why.

The insurance industry of today is clearly the spawn of capitalism, not government. Don't even get me started on the hidden capitalist side of Sallie Mae. The small-time capitalists like me and probably everybody on this board are dealing with the Hydra from Greek mythology. The beast with a hundred heads. You chop one off and two grow back. "Pure" government is sluggish, self-satisfied, and repressive. "Pure" capitalism is heartless. This is the human condition that we have all inherited and there is no rest for the wicked.

The only respite between the devil and the deep-blue sea is a small enclave, hopefully a growing one, of committed quality people who are willing to keep fighting and willing to entertain the idea that righteousness and health require more than choosing a new hat for the body politic in the next election and insisting on slogans that have a nice ring to them. THAT, and only that will save us.

Hey, California has roads and bridges. http://reason.com/archives/2012/07/20/california-goes-bankrupt B) :) :) B) Deep Down In Florida Where The Sun Shines Damn Near Every Day

It's kind of funny when you here someone say they did somthing all on thier own, I'm sure there are a few that can actually say that honestly but I don't believe he was referring to one man business'. Sort of like an architect or engineer claiming they built a building without ever touching a nail, bolt, board,steel or even getting thier hands dirty. I suppose in thier minds they did it on thier own too even though reality reflects a different truth

Right on CIAK!

Exactly, SEAN

regardless of "out of context", why would he say something like that???

only to seperate and divide.

Alba Tell El presidente that they have roads and bridges in North Korea, and people are starving. There was also a road in front of Solyndra but that still went out of business. Redistribute this MR O. Obama's third world 2bit dictator in training mentality is dragging us down into a third world nation. B) :) :) B) Deep Down In Florida Where The Sun Shines Damn Near Every Day

Yeah...We've all heard that bit....Amazing how things/statements can be "rationalized", (or post-"spun" possibly), isn't it?

It wasn't "taken out of context"....He said what he said, because that's what he thinks/told to protray....

The guys' a showman....Has no clue....Some think he's smart simply due to his orating skills, of stuttering/pondering-type speach antics he utilizes to appear "articulative" (?)....he's simply not...JMHO.

Look, if you’ve been successful, you didn’t get there on your own. You didn’t get there on your own. I’m always struck by people who think, well, it must be because I was just so smart."

Come on man you seem too smart to take this words out of context.What he meant is that is the country that we live in the infrastructure and the system built by previous generations of hard working americans that allows people to thrive and have their own businesses.It's the system that allows you to be successful and you got to pay into it to keep the system going otherwise we can become like somalia which by the way is a conservative's paradise. no government no taxes no police no army ,every man for himself.

CIAK Said: Check it out. How you didnt build that, became, He didnt say that. What do you do when everybodys claiming your president said something, and you just know he didnt really say it, but all the video and all the audio and all the transcripts show that he did say it? http://reason.com/blog/2012/07/18/how-you-didnt-build-that-became-he-didnt Then there is the Music video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnyuhBBEyJc&feature=share B) :) :) B) Deep Down In Florida Where The Sun Shines Damn Near Every Day

Just a clarification. The president's central idea, individuals should view government as society's moral center, the engine of prosperity and the arbiter of fairness. If you think bigger and bigger government is the answer then Obama is "your" president B) :) :) B) Deep Down In Florida Where The Sun Shines Damn Near Every Day

If you don't subscribe it is well worth the few minutes it takes to do so. http://reason.com/archives/2012/07/19/all-three-branches-of-government-are-act B) :) :) B) Deep Down In Florida Where The Sun Shines Damn Near Every Day

TomB - How do we fix thinking like that? It's bull shiite.

I understand that chronies vote the other way to get certain guys out of the election but if all normal citizens would vote straight up, we would get who we wanted.

Check it out. How "you didn't build that," became, "He didn't say that". What do you do when everybody's claiming your president said something, and you just know he didn't really say it, but all the video and all the audio and all the transcripts show that he did say it? http://reason.com/blog/2012/07/18/how-you-didnt-build-that-became-he-didnt Then there is the " Music video " http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnyuhBBEyJc&feature=share B) :) :) B) Deep Down In Florida Where The Sun Shines Damn Near Every Day

Does everyone realize that a vote for anyone but Mitt is a vote for Oh'bummer?

Once again, it comes down to the lesser of two evils......Remember; "Perception is reality".....It may just turn around w/Mitt, whereas we KNOW, it will at best, be the same w/Obama....very likely, it could get extremely worse. ;)